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	<title>Comments on: Oddities From the Latest Google Update</title>
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	<description>Michael Gray rants on SEO the internet and  media</description>
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		<title>By: Hon Hon</title>
		<link>http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/oddities-from-the-latest-google-update/comment-page-1/#comment-30468</link>
		<dc:creator>Hon Hon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had some problems over the last month, goo serps traffic was down about 80% of normal for old sites. but made a few changes and now traffic has doubled over the last week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had some problems over the last month, goo serps traffic was down about 80% of normal for old sites. but made a few changes and now traffic has doubled over the last week.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Karr</title>
		<link>http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/oddities-from-the-latest-google-update/comment-page-1/#comment-30385</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Karr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Monty Python.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Monty Python.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/oddities-from-the-latest-google-update/comment-page-1/#comment-30147</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 03:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael... I am not positive but I would guess that the problem you are seeing could be related to having too many inbound links from pages that are in supplemental hell.

I am having a similar problem with one of my sites but it is much worse because all of my rankings went to the crapper.  I am manually going through and trying my best to remove inbound links from pages that are in the supplemental index that I can control.  Anyway... not sure if this is the problem but it is a gut feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael&#8230; I am not positive but I would guess that the problem you are seeing could be related to having too many inbound links from pages that are in supplemental hell.</p>
<p>I am having a similar problem with one of my sites but it is much worse because all of my rankings went to the crapper.  I am manually going through and trying my best to remove inbound links from pages that are in the supplemental index that I can control.  Anyway&#8230; not sure if this is the problem but it is a gut feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: Christoph C. Cemper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christoph C. Cemper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Dec 2006 17:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaahh - thanks for this, and the discussion on Matt&#039;s blog... 

as I already posted 2 weeks ago about the &quot;crippled site: operator&quot; I&#039;m happy to read from Matt/Michael/Michael&#039;s discussion that the site: command DID change for others as well, as well as returns stuff in a weirdo-sort-mode ... well - shortest url first is something I didn&#039;t come up with... 

what I still don&#039;t get is that weird, non-relating numbers for the number of sites indexed and the cache date of that index page I saw 
(see http://www.marketingfan.com/a/search-engines/google-cache-crazy-or-site-command-broken-by-intention.php for detail numbers ) 


cheers, christoph</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaahh &#8211; thanks for this, and the discussion on Matt&#8217;s blog&#8230; </p>
<p>as I already posted 2 weeks ago about the &#8220;crippled site: operator&#8221; I&#8217;m happy to read from Matt/Michael/Michael&#8217;s discussion that the site: command DID change for others as well, as well as returns stuff in a weirdo-sort-mode &#8230; well &#8211; shortest url first is something I didn&#8217;t come up with&#8230; </p>
<p>what I still don&#8217;t get is that weird, non-relating numbers for the number of sites indexed and the cache date of that index page I saw<br />
(see <a href="http://www.marketingfan.com/a/search-engines/google-cache-crazy-or-site-command-broken-by-intention.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.marketingfan.com/a/search-engines/google-cache-crazy-or-site-command-broken-by-intention.php</a> for detail numbers ) </p>
<p>cheers, christoph</p>
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		<title>By: Distinct Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Distinct Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2006 05:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad I&#039;m not the only one seeing bogus results. The summary of my observations is that many authority sites are taking over good quality positions. However, there appears to be a lot of old information in the SERPs now (web sites we thought GOogle had taken care of.....) Pretty discouraging if you ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m not the only one seeing bogus results. The summary of my observations is that many authority sites are taking over good quality positions. However, there appears to be a lot of old information in the SERPs now (web sites we thought GOogle had taken care of&#8230;..) Pretty discouraging if you ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Fish SEO</title>
		<link>http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/oddities-from-the-latest-google-update/comment-page-1/#comment-29548</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Fish SEO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not just google.com that is seeing results change, its all the other international SERPs as well.  Id&#039; say this is pretty much a wide-spread change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not just google.com that is seeing results change, its all the other international SERPs as well.  Id&#8217; say this is pretty much a wide-spread change.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosenstand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosenstand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 22:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We see exactly the same problems in Denmark these days. I see sites where a site. search returns 18 pages all in supplemental index. But the site has more than 200 pages, and around 100 of these rank in top 3 in Google. 

Also I see pages, that are â€œunknownâ€ to Google when trying to see the cached version with the toolbar â€“ but the exact same page is ranking No. 1 for a very competitive search term. Probably Matt is telling exactly what he knows â€“ but something IS different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We see exactly the same problems in Denmark these days. I see sites where a site. search returns 18 pages all in supplemental index. But the site has more than 200 pages, and around 100 of these rank in top 3 in Google. </p>
<p>Also I see pages, that are â€œunknownâ€ to Google when trying to see the cached version with the toolbar â€“ but the exact same page is ranking No. 1 for a very competitive search term. Probably Matt is telling exactly what he knows â€“ but something IS different.</p>
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		<title>By: randfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>randfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 18:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEOmoz moved up to page 1 for &quot;SEO&quot; and of the few hundred rankings or so that we monitor, several dozen changed at least somewhat, though it wasn&#039;t as dramatic as some others have described.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEOmoz moved up to page 1 for &#8220;SEO&#8221; and of the few hundred rankings or so that we monitor, several dozen changed at least somewhat, though it wasn&#8217;t as dramatic as some others have described.</p>
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		<title>By: Dio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure if its part of the same problem, but since the 20th December I&#039;ve been seeing a massive shift in some of the terms I kept a cursory eye on. 

The problem with what I&#039;m seeing is some sort of boost for authority domains - so much so that a load of relevant robotic comment spam on irrelevant authority site domains is pushing legitimate sites down the ranks. As they&#039;re spambot comments they&#039;re on an industrial level - there&#039;s lots of these results pushing all the legitimate results out the window.

Please excuse the self link - I have posted examples of what I&#039;m seeing and my less than expert opinion on why its happening. You&#039;ll want to skip the couple introductory headers, the screen grabs are towards the end. &lt;a href=&quot;http://thenextbigwebthing.com/2006/12/problem-with-authority-google-and.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Take a look&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure if its part of the same problem, but since the 20th December I&#8217;ve been seeing a massive shift in some of the terms I kept a cursory eye on. </p>
<p>The problem with what I&#8217;m seeing is some sort of boost for authority domains &#8211; so much so that a load of relevant robotic comment spam on irrelevant authority site domains is pushing legitimate sites down the ranks. As they&#8217;re spambot comments they&#8217;re on an industrial level &#8211; there&#8217;s lots of these results pushing all the legitimate results out the window.</p>
<p>Please excuse the self link &#8211; I have posted examples of what I&#8217;m seeing and my less than expert opinion on why its happening. You&#8217;ll want to skip the couple introductory headers, the screen grabs are towards the end. <a href="http://thenextbigwebthing.com/2006/12/problem-with-authority-google-and.shtml" rel="nofollow">Take a look</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Cutts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Cutts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted about this.</p>
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