Comments on: Google Dropping Sites http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/ Michael Gray rants on SEO the internet and media Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:43:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Abhilash http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-22776 Abhilash Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:11:26 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-22776 I'm in the boat too with one of my clients--a totally legit site that was doing nothing heinous at all. They were using the bruce clay "linkmaps" tool and just a few high-pr rented links, but I can't imagine that being enough to get the site thrown out of the index. Pr is still showing, inbound links are still showing, reinclusions were filed, but for whatever reason the entire site with hundreds of pages of unique content have been thrown out entirely. Ferfluky indeed. I’m in the boat too with one of my clients–a totally legit site that was doing nothing heinous at all. They were using the bruce clay “linkmaps” tool and just a few high-pr rented links, but I can’t imagine that being enough to get the site thrown out of the index.

Pr is still showing, inbound links are still showing, reinclusions were filed, but for whatever reason the entire site with hundreds of pages of unique content have been thrown out entirely.

Ferfluky indeed.

]]> By: IrishWonder http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18740 IrishWonder Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:41:35 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18740 If this was anything like what I have seen on my sites this looks very mcuh like data loss on their side. A few of my spammy spammy sites have been dropped - but then all of sudden returned in a few days without me doing anything about it. If this was anything like what I have seen on my sites this looks very mcuh like data loss on their side. A few of my spammy spammy sites have been dropped – but then all of sudden returned in a few days without me doing anything about it.

]]> By: Google Success http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18614 Google Success Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:19:14 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18614 It is my experience that my only site which was banned by Google was the one where I used some black hat techniques like using sneaky redirects. Google also banned my other site which linked to that spammy site. But that was my fault. I think it is natural for some old pages going out of the SERPs especially if those pages are from forums or blogs - as older pages will move away from the root. It is my experience that my only site which was banned by Google was the one where I used some black hat techniques like using sneaky redirects. Google also banned my other site which linked to that spammy site. But that was my fault.

I think it is natural for some old pages going out of the SERPs especially if those pages are from forums or blogs – as older pages will move away from the root.

]]> By: John Andrews http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18379 John Andrews Wed, 08 Nov 2006 17:13:53 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18379 RE:keywords Ahh...I don't agree every post has "targeted intentions" or perhaps they are just not trying hard enough, lol. But getting banned is not the same as not winning a competitive SERP. Getting banned is about making mistakes that trigger filters or winning in competition with Google (the hand ban - they hate to lose on their own turf). When a WP blog gets banned it's important to check what's up in case it's a new thing... as Michael pointed out it's new to see a ban that leaves TBPR in place as well as back links. I'm thinking I should plead an apology to Matt Cutts for the Cuttletts post, or perhaps an Apology to Google for a few of those a-Google posts ;-) RE:keywords

Ahh…I don’t agree every post has “targeted intentions” or perhaps they are just not trying hard enough, lol. But getting banned is not the same as not winning a competitive SERP. Getting banned is about making mistakes that trigger filters or winning in competition with Google (the hand ban – they hate to lose on their own turf). When a WP blog gets banned it’s important to check what’s up in case it’s a new thing… as Michael pointed out it’s new to see a ban that leaves TBPR in place as well as back links.

I’m thinking I should plead an apology to Matt Cutts for the Cuttletts post, or perhaps an Apology to Google for a few of those a-Google posts ;-)

]]> By: Aaron Pratt http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18107 Aaron Pratt Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:59:54 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18107 John - Could it be extreme competition? Just in case you haven't noticed; Rand, Lee and others are throwing an encyclopedia of keywords at the engines. Every single post they make has targeted intentions, this makes it hard for those of us who do not strive for attention. For instance if I do an "interview with rand fishkin" why does Lee Odden show up for that phrase? Well, you get where I am going with this... John – Could it be extreme competition? Just in case you haven’t noticed; Rand, Lee and others are throwing an encyclopedia of keywords at the engines. Every single post they make has targeted intentions, this makes it hard for those of us who do not strive for attention.

For instance if I do an “interview with rand fishkin” why does Lee Odden show up for that phrase?

Well, you get where I am going with this…

]]> By: John Andrews http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18097 John Andrews Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:41:20 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18097 "4k of pages of what..." I agree Aaron, but that's why I'm curious about my blog. It's online since July, just a WP blog, and has a decent readership via RSS and SEs. I, too, have seen nothing but success on my SEO'd sites. It sure seems you are in a crap shoot with a standard setup these days, as opposed to an SEO project (I know, the party line for SEO, but not everybody agrees). “4k of pages of what…”

I agree Aaron, but that’s why I’m curious about my blog. It’s online since July, just a WP blog, and has a decent readership via RSS and SEs.

I, too, have seen nothing but success on my SEO’d sites. It sure seems you are in a crap shoot with a standard setup these days, as opposed to an SEO project (I know, the party line for SEO, but not everybody agrees).

]]> By: Aaron Pratt http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18088 Aaron Pratt Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:27:50 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18088 4k of pages of what? spammy articles that are used to own a niche? can I get a look at these sites please I do not see anything of value on my sites dropping off... 4k of pages of what? spammy articles that are used to own a niche? can I get a look at these sites please I do not see anything of value on my sites dropping off…

]]> By: redheight http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18044 redheight Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:51:01 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18044 I'm in the exact same boat here.. had around 4K pages removed for one site, but all retain their PR (homepage has a PR6 even).. Even loaded the site into Goog webmaster tools about 2 weeks ago, and loaded a site map, and still nothing. Part of me thinks that Google is treating this site as new, and needs to re-index everything..baffled though. I’m in the exact same boat here.. had around 4K pages removed for one site, but all retain their PR (homepage has a PR6 even).. Even loaded the site into Goog webmaster tools about 2 weeks ago, and loaded a site map, and still nothing. Part of me thinks that Google is treating this site as new, and needs to re-index everything..baffled though.

]]> By: Ken Savage http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18035 Ken Savage Tue, 07 Nov 2006 17:10:23 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18035 On Oct 20th half of the 3150 articles I had on a site over the last 4 years were dropped completely from the Google index and I would do deep linking so they wouldn't fall wayside. Yet the pages still maintain their pr2-pr4 on the toolbar. On Oct 20th half of the 3150 articles I had on a site over the last 4 years were dropped completely from the Google index and I would do deep linking so they wouldn’t fall wayside.

Yet the pages still maintain their pr2-pr4 on the toolbar.

]]> By: Michael Gray http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/comment-page-1/#comment-18028 Michael Gray Tue, 07 Nov 2006 16:36:48 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/seo/google-dropping-sites/#comment-18028 Every site I've had before that was banned totally lost toolbar PR. Not sure if this a new way things get banned or not. Every site I’ve had before that was banned totally lost toolbar PR. Not sure if this a new way things get banned or not.

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