Think Google is a good as they would have you believe they are about detecting duplicate copy, then take a look here [fireproof safe with power]. Since result two links to result one I’d say result two is probably the original and Google got it wrong.
In this case the comments probably played a big role in the uniqueness of the documents when compared to one another. From a purely hypothetical point of view what if you cloaked the unique factors and served them only to the bots. What if you took some standard non unique data feeds and uniquified them on the fly. Serve your real visitors lovingly written marketing copy, serve the bots some really unique substitute and replaced copy with a bit of relevant RSS mashedup style copy, hypothetically speaking of course.
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Incredible… how did you go about finding this?
On a side note, what were the results of the youtube video test you did earlier in the month?
I’ve got a fun example of the same thing happening with my blog earlier this week — an article of mine got Sphunn. Sphunn took the #1 result for the exact match title, folks who linked to the article rounded out most of the top 10, and even some spam blogs made it in, but the article appears *nowhere*. See here:
http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/2007/11/22/what-the-duplicate-content-penalty-looks-like/
The Wordpress category page is #9 or so — I’m wondering if that one is the culprit.
The exact search string is [developing linkbait for a non-technical audience], if you want to try it out. Shouldn’t be terribly competitive, I think you’ll agree.
(Patrick, I see you at #2, behind warcraft.juzwiesz.pl)
I currently have the problem that, thinking it was good for SEO, I submitted a site’s newsfeed to all these RSS directory websites (you know, websites that try to be catalogs of rss feeds pertaining to any and all subjects).
Well, unfortunately, some of these RSS directory websites have pretty strong domain authority, because they’re now acting just like proxies…Google thinks that the original content is coming from our newsfeeds in the directory websites, and not in the originating site itself !
This means we are releasing original content, these RSS directory websites are syndicating it, and Google thinks the directory websites are the originators of our content…resulting in our site not ranking at all.
IMHO, RSS Directories are the new Proxies. Google should really look into this problem and fix it. They’re serving up copied, incomplete content to their visitors as if it’s original content, and then shafting the originating website with a dup content penalty…
Any suggestions on how to get out of this trap ?
I’m not seeing the duplicate content. Maybe this is because I have personalized search turned on?
thanks
Pretty ironic that a feed aggregator picked up this post and is now ranking #2 for “fireproof safe with power.”
You think that’s bad, Garrett ? In my case an RSS Aggregator Site even ranks number one for our site’s own name without its domain extension ! This is a prevalent problem and is not just a one-time novelty.
michael, this website is locking up my ie6 pretty badly today. i had to come back on ff just to leave this comment.
Martin – Do not worry about feed aggregation sites, they actually help in stamping new sites with the content ownership flag in Google algorithms. Google may not seem to know you exist today but tomorrow you will find they knew about you the microsecond you made your first post to that weenie blog… God bless feed aggregators!
I often aggregate my own feeds as a security measure just incase, it also works to get content crawled…
A non issue, really!
I second the IE-locking problem with this website. IE7 kept locking up when I loaded this page, but with FF it was fine. I know I know… maybe it is more of a problem with IE7 than anything. Keep in mind, I haven’t seen this type of problem with most sites I visit… so there is something specific to this site that is causing the problem.
If one didn’t have time to manually send to directories or outsource this task, would using a software like ArtemisPro help? I’ve heard people talk about it, but don’t know much about how the process works. So Google frowns on article duplicates, but is there a software that will pass the test?
Yes, the comments make one more relevant than the other, so it gets top ranking.
These two sites are in cahoots, though – the ‘blog’ link on the NetworkMagic site links to the NetworkGarage site, and the NetworkGarage site has a big fat ‘Brought to you by NetworkMagic’ graphic in the banner.
This isn’t one site losing out to the other, this is one company getting two separate top-five rankings – and all the extra associated traffic – out of one piece of content.
My response is directed to Sharon Q. Yes, a software like ArtemisPro can help. This software does away with duplicate copy by sending original unique articles to each publisher. The software is well worth its low price!
To Louise K and Sharon Q Artemis Pro makes variations of articles you write so you aren’t getting hashed up stuff but your own writing. It’s very easy to use.
Google needs a Bitch Slap! & many swift Kicks where it Hurts!
Grey Wolf’s post was the original content
search for
“duplicate copy, then take a look here [fireproof safe with power]”
Results 1 – 1 of 1 for “duplicate copy, then take a look here [fireproof safe with power]”
http://www.myfeedz.com/articles/tags/duplicate
WTF!! 1 result ……the new “poisonous” duplicate copy filter in action
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included. …..I SURE DO /(
Results 1 – 10 of about 53 for “duplicate copy…….
“no mallace intended” google duplicate algo demotes the Grey Wolf originating page to #41
So what’s this result imply “penalize” for all those “original content page webmasters”
Lets try Just 3 words of duplicate content
google search for “here fireproof safe”
Results 1 – 3 of 3 for “here fireproof safe”
If you like, you can repeat the search with the omitted results included. …..I SURE DO
Results 1 – 54 of 54
Venomous google duplicate algo kicks in & ranks the wolf-howl.com’s originating page at #41
Just 3 words of “duplicate content” will have the your;
pages / sites demoted,
censored results displayed
SE traffic reduced to zero
trust rank reduced
by the “all mighty, all knowing ” google NOT!!
These results imply “original content page webmasters” in 2008re done for
“google will penalize you” for 3 words of duplicate content
Time for the google “Resistance” to take up arms & strike down the oppressor !!
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