Comments on: Google Analytics Why Do You Make Me Distrust You http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/ Michael Gray rants on SEO the internet and media Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:43:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chilli http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61800 Chilli Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:38:44 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61800 We stayed out of this one too, too many good hackers around. As far as I'm concerned you can't complain - just don't opt in! We stayed out of this one too, too many good hackers around. As far as I’m concerned you can’t complain – just don’t opt in!

]]> By: Monty http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61765 Monty Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:50:20 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61765 Handing over your profit data (in terms of ROI and cost per conversion data) to the same company that decides what you pay for PPC marketing seems alot like telling the used car salesman exactly how much cash you have in your wallet to spend on a car. Handing over your profit data (in terms of ROI and cost per conversion data) to the same company that decides what you pay for PPC marketing seems alot like telling the used car salesman exactly how much cash you have in your wallet to spend on a car.

]]> By: resimler http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61761 resimler Wed, 12 Mar 2008 11:57:41 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61761 I think they’d love to have more insight I think they’d love to have more insight

]]> By: JVP http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61752 JVP Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:04:06 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61752 @9 I couldn't agree more. Adsense is Google's bread and butter and it only makes sense for them to find a way to squeeze more money out of advertisers. @9 I couldn’t agree more.

Adsense is Google’s bread and butter and it only makes sense for them to find a way to squeeze more money out of advertisers.

]]> By: Vladimir Prelovac http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61746 Vladimir Prelovac Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:02:07 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61746 You managed to make me paranoid. Few days have passed since I accepted sharing of all data and all three of my sites that were first page of google sank down to 5th-8th page. They all have in common both adsense and adwords campaigns. Maybe it was some kind of natural change in ranking, but having happened just now did make me paranoid. You managed to make me paranoid. Few days have passed since I accepted sharing of all data and all three of my sites that were first page of google sank down to 5th-8th page. They all have in common both adsense and adwords campaigns. Maybe it was some kind of natural change in ranking, but having happened just now did make me paranoid.

]]> By: Hawaii SEO http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61705 Hawaii SEO Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:45:43 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61705 @David - True. They can do whatever evil they want even though I doubt the current administration would... However, it might help to put something in writing that would be difficult to weasel out of if it becomes convenient to take a short-cut down a slippery slope at some point in the future. It's up to them to create a situation where they are either inspiring trust, loyalty & love or fear, uncertainty & doubt (FUD) for retaining their ability to abuse their dominate position and our trust at any time if they choose to do so. A) Use at your own risk [Insert evil laugh]. B) There is no risk :^) Have fun with the new tools & toys. @David – True. They can do whatever evil they want even though I doubt the current administration would… However, it might help to put something in writing that would be difficult to weasel out of if it becomes convenient to take a short-cut down a slippery slope at some point in the future.

It’s up to them to create a situation where they are either inspiring trust, loyalty & love or fear, uncertainty & doubt (FUD) for retaining their ability to abuse their dominate position and our trust at any time if they choose to do so.

A) Use at your own risk [Insert evil laugh].
B) There is no risk :^) Have fun with the new tools & toys.

]]> By: David LaFerney http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61700 David LaFerney Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:02:33 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61700 Is there anything to stop them from doing what they will without permission? I totally agree with the point that future administrations might not be so benevolent, but if they were going to use this data for nefarious purposes why would they even ask in the first place? It seems like the real choice is either A)Trust Google with your data, or B) Don't use their tools at all. Or am I missing something? Is there anything to stop them from doing what they will without permission?

I totally agree with the point that future administrations might not be so benevolent, but if they were going to use this data for nefarious purposes why would they even ask in the first place?

It seems like the real choice is either A)Trust Google with your data, or B) Don’t use their tools at all.

Or am I missing something?

]]> By: Vladimir Prelovac http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61698 Vladimir Prelovac Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:25:25 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61698 When I saw that message, I graciously allowed Google the information on all levels. First of all, I trust Google more then any other company in the world. Second of all, they could have gotten what they wanted without telling us that, a slight change in algorithm to include additional databases, so what's the big deal. I like that you are as sceptic but on the other hand Google is the one to be scared if they start playing with the fire. When I saw that message, I graciously allowed Google the information on all levels.

First of all, I trust Google more then any other company in the world. Second of all, they could have gotten what they wanted without telling us that, a slight change in algorithm to include additional databases, so what’s the big deal. I like that you are as sceptic but on the other hand Google is the one to be scared if they start playing with the fire.

]]> By: Hawaii SEO http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61697 Hawaii SEO Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:27:01 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61697 That’s my problem too… I have a lot of faith in Matt and the rest of the folks running the show right now but… 10 years from now it might be a different team that plays by different rules. Google should put something in writing to detail exactly what they mean by don’t be evil. “Google will not use Google analytics or other conversion tracking information to…” @ezra - One big conspiracy theory is that Google will look at the overall cost to revenue ratio an industry pays and use it to set minimum prices for the highest converting keywords. Another is to use PPC visits to influence personalized results, thus giving the big spenders with AdWords a significant edge in the organic results. Why not use the visit and transaction data to research profitable new markets that Google could enter or invest in? The list of evil things you can do with too much user & transaction data can go on forever. (So does the list of good things) However... I don't recall reading anything in any user agreements that would explicitly prevent Google from doing whatever they want. It seems like they would prefer to leave their options open for now. (?) That’s my problem too… I have a lot of faith in Matt and the rest of the folks running the show right now but… 10 years from now it might be a different team that plays by different rules.

Google should put something in writing to detail exactly what they mean by don’t be evil.

“Google will not use Google analytics or other conversion tracking information to…”

@ezra – One big conspiracy theory is that Google will look at the overall cost to revenue ratio an industry pays and use it to set minimum prices for the highest converting keywords. Another is to use PPC visits to influence personalized results, thus giving the big spenders with AdWords a significant edge in the organic results.

Why not use the visit and transaction data to research profitable new markets that Google could enter or invest in?

The list of evil things you can do with too much user & transaction data can go on forever. (So does the list of good things) However… I don’t recall reading anything in any user agreements that would explicitly prevent Google from doing whatever they want. It seems like they would prefer to leave their options open for now. (?)

]]> By: Ezra Goldschlager http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/comment-page-1/#comment-61696 Ezra Goldschlager Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:26:12 +0000 http://www.wolf-howl.com/google/google-analytics-why-do-you-make-me-distrust-you/#comment-61696 Fair enough. Unsatisfying, but fair enough! :) Fair enough. Unsatisfying, but fair enough! :)

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